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US airforce finally admitted that they have worse planes.
02-26-2005, 11:59 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2005 12:05 AM by Crazy_Ivan.)
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RE: it has happend
Some amendments to the russian list
Carrier flanker is the Su-35, not Su-33. Su-33 is the land based version, that doesn\'t have AG guidance. Main difference: lenght of the dreaded tail spike, the Su-35 has a shorter one...

Mig-29K has reinforced front wheel assembly, possibly with a kicker like the Naval Rafale. Scrapped in favour of the Su-35 multirole naval variant, but now in production again for India, with modified avionics and stuff.

Especially with MiG, don\'t dig too deep into the letter designations, some indicate custom made export variants and have nothing to do with the combat capabilities.
MiG-29SE has the following differences compared to the standard version: plumbed wing (about time) and a different radar.
With MiG, S designations usually indicate that the radar has not only AA but also AG capabilities for missile guidance

The MiG-29M is now marked as a separate variant (and the main export model at the moment), but basically is the specification as ordered by Malaysia, with both Russian hose and NATO boom refuelling options and better fuel economy.

The Chinese J-10 is basically the same as the MiG 1.42, but has been devloped past prototype status, and doesn\'t have the wierd stealth features that are planned on the MiG. The MiG has a special interference generator instead of radar absorbing paint that is normally used to give stealth capabilities.

For Flanker thrust-to-weight rations: ALL variants that have canards can be fitted with the thrust vercoring engines that were on the Su-37 demonstator, as long as you update the software and pay for it.

Some important holes, all two-seater strike versions of the Flanker, not that much different in the manouvering department.
Su-34: Side-by-side cockpit multirole. quite ugly actually
Su-32FN: Naval strike fighter, looks the same as Su-34, but carrier capable, designation is said to be reused for the export version Su-34
Both the Su-34 and the Su-32 are supposed to have a radar in the tail, which makes them capable of launching the R-73 missile backwards.
Su-30: F-15E like, but better dogfighter
Su-30M, Su-30MK: Same as Su-30 with improved electronics
Su-30MKI: Export for India, Thomson-CSF glass cockpit, some IAI tech for missile guidance and other cockpit stuff. Early batch did\'t have TVC, as the engine wasn\'t ready for production, but was later fitted with the FU engines, like the more recent batches. could have the rearward radar

S-37 is now Su-41, as it went to production status (which doesn\'t mean that it has been ordered though). Designed to be carrier capable, as the inverse-sweep gives better low speed handling. Engines used in the prototype are those of the MiG-31 (non TVC, slightly more power) or uprated AL-37, like the Su-37 uses. Production version has the AL-37 with TVC

Only ones you forgot are the MiG-31 (Mach 3 interceptor) and the F-14 (all three current variants)
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RE: it has happend - joeb - 02-25-2005, 02:33 AM
RE: it has happend - tomcat ha - 02-25-2005, 02:37 AM
RE: it has happend - Crazy_Ivan - 02-25-2005, 03:13 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-25-2005, 03:37 AM
RE: it has happend - joeb - 02-25-2005, 04:19 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-25-2005, 04:34 AM
RE: it has happend - tomcat ha - 02-25-2005, 04:55 AM
RE: it has happend - Crazy_Ivan - 02-25-2005, 05:52 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-26-2005, 03:47 AM
RE: it has happend - joeb - 02-26-2005, 04:17 AM
RE: it has happend - tomcat ha - 02-26-2005, 04:25 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-26-2005, 09:32 AM
RE: it has happend - tomcat ha - 02-26-2005, 10:22 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-26-2005, 07:22 PM
RE: it has happend - tomcat ha - 02-26-2005, 09:23 PM
RE: it has happend - Crazy_Ivan - 02-26-2005 11:59 PM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-27-2005, 12:15 AM
RE: it has happend - tomcat ha - 02-27-2005, 12:59 AM
RE: it has happend - Crazy_Ivan - 02-27-2005, 01:04 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-27-2005, 01:27 AM
RE: it has happend - Crazy_Ivan - 02-27-2005, 02:28 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-27-2005, 04:19 AM
RE: it has happend - Yellowbelly - 02-27-2005, 04:43 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-27-2005, 04:47 AM
RE: it has happend - Crazy_Ivan - 02-27-2005, 05:17 AM
RE: it has happend - The_Punisher - 02-27-2005, 07:44 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-27-2005, 08:51 AM
RE: it has happend - tomcat ha - 02-27-2005, 08:57 AM
RE: it has happend - 1st Sgt. Burke - 02-27-2005, 09:43 AM
RE: it has happend - izzybob7 - 02-27-2005, 10:50 AM
RE: it has happend - viper - 02-28-2005, 12:14 AM
RE: it has happend - Yellowbelly - 02-28-2005, 08:15 AM

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