Are you willing to fight and/or die for your country?

[isoFlux]

people suffer. people suffer more under corrupt and inefficient forms of government. nice point. but does that mean that it is America\'s job to invade them and induce culture shock at gunpoint? just because a country implements a shitty form of government doesnt mean that those people want, need, or are ready for democratic elections and Burger King.

Iraq isn\'t about \"freeing the Iraqi people\". its an imperialist venture to help secure the most needed natural resource. period. Iraq didn\'t threaten the U.S. More people have died during the US/Coalition invasion and occupation than in Saddam\'s rule. If you think this war is about all that ideological nonsense about \"freeing all those poor Iraqi slaves\", then open a history book. the US has had a very specific and focused interest in the Middle East since the end of WWII. excluding our support of Zionism, none of our policies, actions, and whatnot have ever supported \"freedom in the Middle East\". the Middle East is the breadbasket for industrialized countries. it\'s no coincidence that rencent the political amd military actions in Iraq were set forth by oil jockies tightly involved in the Middle East have decided to sacrifice thousands of lives to obtain political, social, and economic control over a cache of resources.

Nazi Germany invaded 9 countries in 1939 (including North Africa). they formed and implemented the most gruesome form of mass genocide known to man, and kept a tight and unwanted grip on all of it\'s territories.

our military actions since WW2 have not been defending and liberating millions of people from a corrupt, destructive, and unjust form of totalitarianism. all they have done is disrupt, polarize, and destory cultures and people for petty political reasons. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq. i dont think all the lives lost for those wars were worth their outcomes. Korea so far is the only pseudo-success story, and even then there are some catches.

how does the theft of my personal property have anything to do with corrupt, paid-off politicians who crack the whip and send soldiers off to die and kill, all of whom have absolutly NO concept of what that invasion will do to those people? no american can fully understand and conceptualize the effect of total war on a country. we just have our big-wigs sign a piece of paper, a few of us see some of our loved-ones off, and then we know that a bunch of people in a far-off land where most of us can\'t even point out on a map will be \"FREE \". because thats what its all about, right? telling other people how to do things. at gunpoint. whether they want it or not.

right. fuck that. i\'m not going to fight and die so Bush and his cronies\' stock will go up a few points.

Freedom is good. Democratic Socialism + Capitalism is good. but cultures dont change on a dime. and wars don\'t make the process any easier. Europeans learned what war can do to peoples\' cultures, lives, families, homes, and futures over and over and over again. it\'s no wonder they are the ones who are generally opposed to a country who has never learned about war invading countries just because they feel like it.